- Jack masturbated on teenage boys and called it God's will.
- Gary took over and did the same thing.
- People tithe. Well where the hell is all the money? I knew a few families that could have used help but didn't get it.
- Mike Van. was appointed King and has commanded that this Oct. everyone must bow down at his feet and be judged.
What happen to
"No King But God"
"Don't worship false idols"
"Beware false prophets"
Yup we're the baddies and they're the goodies.
Of course you're EEEEVILLL! You're getting everyone all worked into a lather...that's their job ;)
ReplyDeleteAdam is now the new "Gary."
ReplyDeleteGary is now free to be the new Abba.
Mike V is now King and per Joseph's commandments "from God," all must "prostrate themselves before him" and "lament" if necessary.
The mental justifications to continue for its members as this cult just go on and on. No common sense. No critical thinking. No analyzing. Just blind belief because the alternative is too painful for them.
NICE directions.
ReplyDeleteSend your kids to the family's brain washing school by following these directions:
Rooute 7/11 to Corinna, Maine
Go left on Route 43 (St. Alban's road)
Follow a few miles.
Go right on Packard RD
Follow a few miles
Take left before Packard road forks.
Drive will take you past Don S's house and ABBA's grave on left.
School is down the road and to the right. It's a small modular unit.
can our new mascot be a rat's anus? please? pretty please?
ReplyDelete"Gary is now free to be the new Abba." That is utterly scary.
ReplyDelete"Gary took over and did the same thing."
ReplyDeleteThis is a pretty big accusation to make. Are you only assuming this goes on or do you have any evidence or first hand testimonies of Gary masturbating on teenage boys?
I think the biggest concern is not whether or not Gary masterbated on little boys.
ReplyDeleteThe concern is that Gary is continuing on with the teachings of a mad man... a man who DID masterbate on little boys. I, personally, would not want the "little-boy-spunk-dropper" as my idol and role model. Seems like common sense....
People are confusing the blogs:
ReplyDeleteI'm reposting some comments made on my blog so that they can be addressed where they pertain:
Anonymous 8/26/11 wrote:
Unfortunately, the owner of the other blog deletes comments that she doesn't like, and she blocks people she doesn't like. I do tell people where we are camping. It is a very large public place. Nothing has happened. also, very very few families use the school. The kids that go live there and are basically homeschooled. ALL of the other ones go to public school, and that is the vast majority of the kids. The article above talks about control tactica, but none of these seem to fit the group
8/26/11: Anonymous wrote:
I don't know...I rstarted reading these forums and blogs and was very unsure about being a part of this group anymore. But as time goes on, I am realizing that the writers are not really trying to give any of us real info except for posting the old article. I first saw the directions to people's property and school on this blog. Pnina copied it from here. I can't believe someone would post something like that. All it looks like is a threat. Now people are getting blocked (not here, yet, I don't think). On the other blog, people are getting blocked for disagreeing and saying it (snarky, yes, but no more snarky than the posts themselves). That is what you all accuse the family of doing- only letting the information through that you want us to see or hear. I don't get it. You guys started it, and invited comments. Now people have to worry about your threats to "track" them? That really seems like a fear tactic to me, and bullying. I want information, but it's hard to believe what you are saying when I see what I am seeing. I think child abuse is horrible, but I only have heard of 3 people, from two families who claim to be abused. Pnina, you and your sister. Even that is too much, but there are so many families- good families, with healthy happy well-adjusted kids. I just don't see it. Were adults (besides in your own abusive families) aware of what was happening to you? I'm not asking to be a jerk, I am truly questioning.
8/26/11 Damaged13 wrote:
I am uncomfortable with the directions being posted as well. However, I think (hope) the point is not to go to the school. The point is transparency, and taking this all out from under the shroud of secrecy. We were all told from day one, you mustn't tell anyone where this is, what we think about that, etc, or something terrible would happen. What would happen exactly? If I told my friends where I went camping every summer, what would be my terrible fate? It's a horrible way to grow up, and if the posters on this site are nut cases as you say, who do you think made them that way?
And... 8/26/11: AJ wrote:
ReplyDeleteTo Waaaa.... You are trying to use logic to appeal to a group of individuals who have gotten themselves all worked up into their own hysteria. Don't waste your breath. Think about it, they are posting driving directions to a place that apparently serves as a school for children. What would be the purpose of that exactly? I almost think it's the children attending that school who should be scared...of the nut cases on this site.
This was My response... from my blog butseriouslybaby@blogspot.com... just in case people are unsure of who the blog author is.
ReplyDeleteThe directions were not from this blog, no one has ever posted directions here. I have deleted no comments except one that used specific names. One person that was the blocked from the other blog,(I know why because I asked the writer of blog), specifically attacked a rape victim verbally about the crime. That is inexcusable. The other person blocked was verbally attacking "the Family" and making some militant comments. So you see, people who use either site and show signs of overt aggression, have been deleted. It shows that we do use discretion about what is posted, but again, you are referring to another blog and should post your concerns there. [I have done this for them]
I have a disclaimer at the bottom of my page, and have had this same disclaimer since I started my blog (which, BTW, was while I was STILL in the group. I started this blog for myself to write my own thoughts, a long time ago).
You ask if adults specifically, were aware of the abuse? Yes, Ricky was aware and said nothing. The Elder at the time of my sister's rape was aware and helped to "mediate" between my father and the father of the boys who gang raped my sister. I still don't really know how you "mediate" a rape, but I guess they did. It was all swept under the table. Did the elders know about a girl who was beaten in her home so much that she had to leave and put herself in foster care, yes they did. And they did then what they are doing here now... the tactics. We were problem children. We were just a small few, loud-mouth, disobedient, "bitter bitter girl[s]".
Jack, Abba, even told my mother once that we as children should not sleep over at Pnina's house because it wasn't a safe situation. He couldn't guarantee our safety if we slept there.
They knew.
Look, my point, whether people believe it or not, is to just get the information out there. I had never heard the Foibles Article and I wished that someone had told me about it a long time ago. So what information do I have to get out there? Stories. People's personal histories with this group. That's the information that I have. If other victims want to come out and tell their own stories, that is up to them. That is not for me to share. If there were more concrete facts and evidence, people would be arrested. So yes, as people like to continually point out, if a "crime" was committed, then I am obligated to report it to the proper authorities as a mandated reporter. But if other people's information is like my own, it's been swept far under the table, so far it's hard for anyone to find, and harder still for anyone to prove.
You are placing a burden of proof at [our] feet. Thank you for thinking I have such a long reach and such large shoulders. But that task of proof, acquiring hard evidence, against this group that has been operational for longer than I've been alive, is beyond the smallness of myself. Therefore I am left with the "soft" evidence.
I never said anyone had to believe me. I didn't ask you to read my blog and believe me and take my side. I have only ever said that this is what I think, what I've experienced, what my fears are. I'm only encouraging people to think for themselves and make their own decision.
If your decision is to stay, then that is your decision. I'm not going to try to change your mind. There are many really nice families. No one knows what happens inside a family except the people in it. If this is your experience and you gain some kind of uplifting experience by remaining apart of it, and no sinister or manipulative tactics have been used against you to do things you would not otherwise have done, then please, continue on.