I will put in more of my 2 cents. I hate lying. It has never felt good. When I was lied to it hurt more. Jack was a liar and Gary and the elders are liars. They knew what Jack said and did wasn't of his own creation and that he stole from other, greater men. They knew he abused his power as a community leader so he could get into the pants of younger men. They took our money and built comfortable lives for themselves. Not cool.
So I guess what it comes down to is this: I don't like the family leaders. They are bad people who do bad things.
P.S. More side note really: I don't like being called bitter. I have kids, a husband, and a few pets who really love me. What I am is someone with a strong sense of right and wrong. And these folk are WRONG!
I also hate the lying. Hate it still. Thinking about people that I hurt because I was afraid to get close to them, or told not to get close to them. Thinking about the anguish of trying to make a decision, only to be held up by guilt, by people, by ideals. All of it a double standard. It applies to you, you, and you, but not you. Oh, but don't ask questions... that's lashon hara... even though we're not really jewish. Isn't it interesting to hang onto only parts of a religion? Isn't it interesting to only hang onto the parts that enable men to rule over women, like niddah or rosh chodesh? Isn't it interesting to hang onto rules that discourage people to talk and confide in one another in a real way? That's all a great way to encourage people to remain repressed.
My favorite experience so far has been being told that we only had these experiences because we came from "bad families." So what wonderful uplifting things happened in the good families, I would like to know? Are you the people that are allowed to do anything you want? Are you the people that get the tithe money and are therefore above the rules? Are you the people that set the rules so that they are convenient to your companies and businesses and personal interests?
I hate the hypocrisies. I hate the double standards. I hate the lies. I hate the elitism. I hate that well educated people, even psychologists, cannot see what and who they and their family are. I hate that people are willing to throw certain families under the bus in order to substantiate their own existence without having to ask the hard questions. Brushing the complicated people under the rug, BTW, is how America was founded. Just to remind you a little. Do not count out the disenfranchised. They are more powerful than you can imagine.
Its unfortunate that there are people in the "family" that are good people. Honest, hard working and doing their best to do what is right. The "family" as a whole is not bad. Just like not all Germans were Nazis not all family members are lying thieves out to oppress you. The problem is, at least some, if not all of the leadership is or has been corrupted. I wonder how many of the people running things know that its all a farce. How many of them actually be leave that what they are doing is gods will? I like to think its the better majority of them. I want to think that most people would have the integrity to not go along with something like this, even if it means being persecuted by everyone around you. Maybe they all know its crap and just enjoy playing the game and making money. I don't know. I can't say to much about Gary or Jack, I've only had a few personal encounters with ether one of them, and they were for the most part uneventful. As far as them being leaders, I can't say anything that hasn't already been said on this and other blogs. So then it comes down to my family. Growing up in the "family" was not a positive experience for me, and I think that my siblings would agree with me. Because we did not live on long Island, in Maine or Colorado, we were removed from everything. This did not shelter me from the gilt and confusion put on me by the "family". I can't tell you how many choices I made or didn't make because I wasn't sure if it was the right thing in the "family's" eyes. I can't blame all my problems in life on the "family". honestly, I can't blame any of them on on anyone but myself, and I'm not even going to try and make the "family" my scape goat. I can say this though; In no way has being a part of the family ever help me out, never once did I want to become more involved and had people open their arms to me. Nowhere in Jacks teachings did I ever find that thing I was looking for that helped fill those empty spaces. I found all that in other elsewhere, on my own, and I'm better for it.
ok ya asked i said before what he did and what he was i wont show respect even in deathy he was a fat nutcase
ReplyDeleteI will put in more of my 2 cents. I hate lying. It has never felt good. When I was lied to it hurt more. Jack was a liar and Gary and the elders are liars. They knew what Jack said and did wasn't of his own creation and that he stole from other, greater men. They knew he abused his power as a community leader so he could get into the pants of younger men. They took our money and built comfortable lives for themselves. Not cool.
ReplyDeleteSo I guess what it comes down to is this: I don't like the family leaders. They are bad people who do bad things.
P.S. More side note really: I don't like being called bitter. I have kids, a husband, and a few pets who really love me. What I am is someone with a strong sense of right and wrong. And these folk are WRONG!
I also hate the lying. Hate it still. Thinking about people that I hurt because I was afraid to get close to them, or told not to get close to them. Thinking about the anguish of trying to make a decision, only to be held up by guilt, by people, by ideals. All of it a double standard. It applies to you, you, and you, but not you. Oh, but don't ask questions... that's lashon hara... even though we're not really jewish. Isn't it interesting to hang onto only parts of a religion? Isn't it interesting to only hang onto the parts that enable men to rule over women, like niddah or rosh chodesh? Isn't it interesting to hang onto rules that discourage people to talk and confide in one another in a real way? That's all a great way to encourage people to remain repressed.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite experience so far has been being told that we only had these experiences because we came from "bad families." So what wonderful uplifting things happened in the good families, I would like to know? Are you the people that are allowed to do anything you want? Are you the people that get the tithe money and are therefore above the rules? Are you the people that set the rules so that they are convenient to your companies and businesses and personal interests?
I hate the hypocrisies.
I hate the double standards.
I hate the lies.
I hate the elitism.
I hate that well educated people, even psychologists, cannot see what and who they and their family are.
I hate that people are willing to throw certain families under the bus in order to substantiate their own existence without having to ask the hard questions. Brushing the complicated people under the rug, BTW, is how America was founded. Just to remind you a little. Do not count out the disenfranchised. They are more powerful than you can imagine.
Its unfortunate that there are people in the
ReplyDelete"family" that are good people. Honest, hard working and doing their best to do what is right. The "family" as a whole is not bad. Just like not all Germans were Nazis not all family members are lying thieves out to oppress you. The problem is, at least some, if not all of the leadership is or has been corrupted.
I wonder how many of the people running things know that its all a farce. How many of them actually be leave that what they are doing is gods will? I like to think its the better majority of them. I want to think that most people would have the integrity to not go along with something like this, even if it means being persecuted by everyone around you. Maybe they all know its crap and just enjoy playing the game and making money. I don't know.
I can't say to much about Gary or Jack, I've only had a few personal encounters with ether one of them, and they were for the most part uneventful. As far as them being leaders, I can't say anything that hasn't already been said on this and other blogs.
So then it comes down to my family. Growing up in the "family" was not a positive experience for me, and I think that my siblings would agree with me. Because we did not live on long Island, in Maine or Colorado, we were removed from everything. This did not shelter me from the gilt and confusion put on me by the "family". I can't tell you how many choices I made or didn't make because I wasn't sure if it was the right thing in the "family's" eyes.
I can't blame all my problems in life on the "family". honestly, I can't blame any of them on on anyone but myself, and I'm not even going to try and make the "family" my scape goat. I can say this though; In no way has being a part of the family ever help me out, never once did I want to become more involved and had people open their arms to me. Nowhere in Jacks teachings did I ever find that thing I was looking for that helped fill those empty spaces. I found all that in other elsewhere, on my own, and I'm better for it.