Thursday, December 29, 2011

RE: Where does the tithe money go?



longlostbro said...

Pnina, so few people answered you survey because you didn't add NERT as one of the options. (half joking).
I am/was a "priest". A few years ago, all the priest were called to Maine for a mandatory meeting. One of the things on our agenda was the issue of tithing. Or maybe better put, the issue of people not tithing. In the meeting, it was said by Garry, that if ever audited, people in the "family" would most likely go to jail.
As things unfolded that day, we were given a brake down of where all the money from tithe was going. I don't recall the exact brake down, but I do know that 75% off all tithe goes to NERT. Some Supper Clans pay 20% tithe, and in there case the additional 10% goes entirely into NERT.
We were then asked to come up with a way to try and convince the people in the "family" to start paying tithe again. The solution was to tell the family to revue a teaching from Jack Hickman that was about tithing. The reason was that, people would hear the mans voice and become compelled to listen. Those who lead the discussion did bring up that this would only be a temporary fix, but it would at least get the cash flowing until a more permanent solution was found.
In short, They wanted to use Jack's words to manipulate people into paying up.

What I am bothered by, is that people in the "family" are clearly profiting off of the "family". The family involved with NERT has made that their lively hood, the funding's coming from us. And NERT is only one example of people profiting off of tithe and the "family"



Footnote, I will not refer to Jack Hickman as Abba, I refuse to honer him with the same title I use for my father.

Wednesday, November 30, 2011

Unifying Meditation Institute

This is the New Face (and by new I mean since '07) of Shoresh Yishai. 


http://nccsdataweb.urban.org/orgs/profile/208037137?popup=1 

Monday, November 28, 2011

Where does the tithe money go

To the shelters, teachings, retreats, etc... it's spread throughout the family
evenly and fair.
  0 (0%)
Most goes to the shelters, teachings, retreats, etc. and Maybe some
 makes it  into the pockets of Gary and the Elders
  3 (33%)
Why does it matter? God said to tithe
  0 (0%)
This is a scam
  6 (66%)


Votes so far: 9 

Funny... no positive responses. 

Sunday, November 13, 2011

The Path Lessons by Freckle Face

Bitte asked in the comments about the Path lessons, where they came from, and how people can be helped to leave. That's a lot to respond to. Being that I was still in the cult when the Path lessons came out, I am the most qualified of the current two writers to answer this question although comments to improve upon the timeline and facts are appreciated.
First, a little background:
When Jack came back in the late 90's, he said it was for the kids. He said he was trying to run away from his destiny like Job, and that God had punished him. He said that although it was hard for him to be back, really uncomfortable because he didn't like to teach, he had been reminded that that was the reason for his being on this Earth. He realized he had squandered his time being away, and that he had to get back to work. His time was limited. He did die 8 years later... so I guess he wasn't wrong about that.
He said the children, the youth of the first and second generations of followers, were his life's work. (creepy!)
For about 4 years, he wooed us. He set in motion a system of checks and balances. The Hierarchy has been explained in But Seriously.
After the "dirty work" was done, he set up shop in a really nice mansion, I'm sorry, house, in the mountains of Colorado. He invited the new Priests and Kings, and people old enough to not be under separate guardianship to live with him in this house. As I understand it, it was mandatory for a few young men. No women were allowed.
To this select group of men he started teaching the Path lessons.
The Path lessons are based on the Book the Sefir Yetzirah by Aryeh Kaplan. It is Kabbalistic in theory. In Kabbalah there are ten sephirot, between the sephirot there are paths that connect the different sephira... these are the paths. The sefir yetzirah is an extremely complex way of telling you about the connections, about the paths. A person who studies Kabbalism must learn to walk each of these paths in their lifetime to attain perfection. This is usually a life long process, or one that can span many lives.
That is how Jack taught it.
If you are having trouble with the concept of the sephira... think of the "chakras", it's about the same as Traditional Chinese Medicine. There are "pools" of energy. These pools are the centers for different body organs, emotions, actions, chemicals, etc. In TCM, they connected by Meridians. These meridians end in "pressure points" or in the points in the ear, hands, feet, as in reflexology. The idea is the same as the sephira and the paths. One flows into another. A blockage in one limits your connection to another. In order to function all the pathways must be clear, etc etc.
It started in Colorado with the youth boys only. Eventually a cd was mailed to all the "youth." The adults were told this information was beyond them. They were tainted by their Lutheran pasts and would never be able to understand this information.
The youth being hand-picked by Jack in guf (the heavenly location for souls waiting to born accessed via Jacob's ladder by Jack... because he was an incarnation or emanation of the soul of Jacob) were perfectly suited to understand this information. He had to finish teaching it in order to complete our purpose. Also, we were not allowed to study alone. He HAD to study in a group, or we would go mad.
In college campuses all across America where there were any students of Jack Hickman whose parents had roped them into a cult, and told them that in order to live, in order to be perfect, in order to know God they had to listen to Jack, in those places, students got together and studied the meanderings of an increasingly confused and sick old man who thought he was a prophet. Thus the path lessons.
The path lessons were Jack's final work. There are 32 of them. Pnina is reposting the lessons as they were presented on the cd... out of order, confusing, meandering, making absolutely no sense whatsoever.
My personal favorite part is the Q & A. That's where Jack really shines.
****************************************************************
I hope this has explained the Path lessons and how Jack taught post 1996 for those morbidly curious. If you were a person who left on SBS, as it is called, you would not understand the context.
If you had stayed, you would have been cast aside for your children.
Many adults were enraged at being told after all those years of being faithful that they were being cast aside for their children.
In some families this made the children revered and also punished. The hopes/faith of the parents started to rest on their children, with mingled emotions and expectations of perfection and resentment.
I don't think you have to be a psychiatrist to figure out why it is so hard for people to leave when you understand the context and the immensity of the burden the children are forced to carry for and by their own parents.
There will be no leaving for the youth whose parents are steadfast in their beliefs.
You cannot argue beliefs with someone.
Therefore unless these children are willing to leave their parents behind, they are stuck. They will not and cannot leave. This is more mental and emotional than physical.
People can say "no one is making you stay."
I guess this is true.
But that is considering the body without the heart and mind. And I don't think you should ever do that.
So in the meantime the children that have left are considered the black sheep of their family, troubled, disturbed, mentally unstable. They are told they have "ulterior motives." I don't know what that means.
Do people not realize the tearing, the ripping apart that has to happen for you to leave? Do people think that was an "easy" choice?
Change is harder than constancy.
Remodeling is harder than building.
Solitude is harder than togetherness.
Being apart is infinitely harder, than playing the part.

Monday, November 7, 2011

10,000

And now I'm taking a small brake for a few weeks. 10,000 hits in only 3 months is quite an achievement. Thank you to everyone who took part in the surveys and let their voices be heard by leaving comments. Thank you to all my contributors of info. Hope there are more of you out there. This group is not entirely bad but there are parts that are corrupt and immoral. So lets work together to get more info out there! be back soon
-P    


Tuesday, November 1, 2011

Over on But Seriously

Freckle face has put up a great survey.  Please go check it out. Answer the questions honestly. Read the numbers. Judge for yourself.

Thursday, October 27, 2011

I CALL SHENANIGANS!

On the last post someone commented that in 1996 they were asked to pay 20% for access to teachings and the shelters.

 Lets try this:You have (like my parents did) 6 kids, 1 income (at times) ,have to pay $ .20 on the dollar, at the same time cover your bills, feed and cloth the rug rats, and still have money in savings in case of emergencies. Now you have to do all of this on less then 80% of said income (after the feds and state get done). How do you survive? If you end up in the poor house will the family let you live in on of the cabins? Or in someone's basement?

Wednesday, October 19, 2011

money = survival of ones life style
lack of money = desperation
no tithe = no money
lack of money = desperation

oh and tithe money is tax free...

Wednesday, October 5, 2011

A few more questions?

Why do you want to rush to the end?
Why condemn your fellow man?
Why pull your love from the greater community?
Why hide your true face from the rest of G-d's creations?
Why would you raise your children to do the same?
Did you know that this is bigotry?
Why are you teaching your kids to be bigots?
Do you think G-d wants you to be a bigot?

What happens if nothing happens... AGAIN? I mean the world IS going to end, that's just the course of nature. But what if it doesn't happen within the course of your lifetime? Or the next gen., or the one after that, or the one after that, etc? Why would you leave a legacy of bigots?

Do you have any answers? I'm not asking the people on the outside. I want to know from those who have committed their lives to this religion. Can any of you answer these (granted loaded) questions for me? Please?

Monday, October 3, 2011

It's October!

Times running out! Time to decide if you are going to be on the left or the right (or what ever they're calling it this round)!
Well I know what time it's for me. It's time to crack open a bottle of some good wine and sit back to watch the fire works... maybe...

Monday, September 26, 2011

What do you feel about all of this?

"The Family"
Jack
Gary
Cult/ Not Cult
You family
What ever you want.
Please leave comments below.

Sunday, September 18, 2011

legal case involving some members back in the day

http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/PropertyPrivacy/NumericalID/StevensVStephenBurger,428FSupp896(1977).htm

Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Funny My Mom Always Said "You Can't Trust A George"

Florida Department of Law Enforcement - Sexual Offender / Predator Flyer
Picture of an Offender or Predator
GEORGE M DELALIO
Date Of Photo: 08/30/2007
Click Here to Track this Offender
Designation:Sexual Offender
Name:GEORGE M DELALIO
Status:Released - Required to Register
Department of Corrections #:Not Available
Search the Dept of Corrections Website
Date of Birth:12/17/1952
Race :White
Sex:Male
Hair:Brown
Eyes:Green
Height:6'00"
Weight:220 lbs
DELALIO is registered as a Sexual Offender.
Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made.
Aliases
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Scars, Marks & Tattoos
Information temporarily unavailable
Address Information
AddressAddress Source InformationMap Link
Out of State
Cheyenne, WY 82001-4756
Laramie COUNTY
Source: Registration
Received: 08/30/2007
Type of Address: Permanent
Address not mappable
Crime Information - Qualifying Offenses
Adjudication DateCrime DescriptionCourt Case NumberJurisdiction & StateAdjudication
10/05/2006SEX OFFENSE, OTHER STATE (SEXUAL EXPLOITATION OF CHILDREN)28-904LARAMIE, WYGuilty/convict
Victim Information
Gender:Unknown  Minor:Yes

Found this in my searches


Couple Accused in Child's Death May Have Belonged to Shoresh Yishai Cult 
 
From "Hedda Linked to Kid-beating Cult," the New York Post, December 2, 1987, p. 14.
 
    New York police are investigating reports that Joel Steinberg and his live-in lover, Hedda Nussbaum, were members of Shoresh Yishai, a Long Island-based cult that advocated strict discipline of children. The pair are accused of beating to death their "adoptive daughter," Lisa, in 1987. Their lawyer said the reports of cult involvement were false.
 
    Law enforcement sources said they found "cult-like things" in the couple's Greenwich Village apartment and are questioning former members of the group. One ex-member recalled seeing Nussbaum at meetings as far back as 1979.
 
    Shoresh Yishai, led by Jack Hickman, once claimed more than 2,000 members who had transformed themselves from traditional Christians to Orthodox-style Jews who believed in Jesus. Many members left the group in 1982 when they learned Hickman was homosexual. More than 50 members still exist on Long Island, according to police.
 
    Former members have reported several cases of men being beaten and humiliated by sect leaders. One former member said she had heard of bizarre sexual incidents involving children, and reported that boys were taken into a separate room to pray and told to unzip their pants because "prayer is sexually arousing."
 

Tuesday, August 30, 2011

Only you can prevent forest fires

Not really. It should say "Only you can start forest fires. So don't!"
Needing more info from the masses. More teachings, more videos, more audio. Also if you have a story and you want to share, email me and it will get posted. I think the more voices get heard the better.

Saturday, August 27, 2011

Guest speaker


Freckle Face said...

This was My response... from my blog butseriouslybaby@blogspot.com... just in case people are unsure of who the blog author is.

The directions were not from this blog, no one has ever posted directions here. I have deleted no comments except one that used specific names. One person that was the blocked from the other blog,(I know why because I asked the writer of blog), specifically attacked a rape victim verbally about the crime. That is inexcusable. The other person blocked was verbally attacking "the Family" and making some militant comments. So you see, people who use either site and show signs of overt aggression, have been deleted. It shows that we do use discretion about what is posted, but again, you are referring to another blog and should post your concerns there. [I have done this for them]

I have a disclaimer at the bottom of my page, and have had this same disclaimer since I started my blog (which, BTW, was while I was STILL in the group. I started this blog for myself to write my own thoughts, a long time ago).

You ask if adults specifically, were aware of the abuse? Yes, Ricky was aware and said nothing. The Elder at the time of my sister's rape was aware and helped to "mediate" between my father and the father of the boys who gang raped my sister. I still don't really know how you "mediate" a rape, but I guess they did. It was all swept under the table. Did the elders know about a girl who was beaten in her home so much that she had to leave and put herself in foster care, yes they did. And they did then what they are doing here now... the tactics. We were problem children. We were just a small few, loud-mouth, disobedient, "bitter bitter girl[s]".

Jack, Abba, even told my mother once that we as children should not sleep over at Pnina's house because it wasn't a safe situation. He couldn't guarantee our safety if we slept there.

They knew.

Look, my point, whether people believe it or not, is to just get the information out there. I had never heard the Foibles Article and I wished that someone had told me about it a long time ago. So what information do I have to get out there? Stories. People's personal histories with this group. That's the information that I have. If other victims want to come out and tell their own stories, that is up to them. That is not for me to share. If there were more concrete facts and evidence, people would be arrested. So yes, as people like to continually point out, if a "crime" was committed, then I am obligated to report it to the proper authorities as a mandated reporter. But if other people's information is like my own, it's been swept far under the table, so far it's hard for anyone to find, and harder still for anyone to prove.

You are placing a burden of proof at [our] feet. Thank you for thinking I have such a long reach and such large shoulders. But that task of proof, acquiring hard evidence, against this group that has been operational for longer than I've been alive, is beyond the smallness of myself. Therefore I am left with the "soft" evidence.

I never said anyone had to believe me. I didn't ask you to read my blog and believe me and take my side. I have only ever said that this is what I think, what I've experienced, what my fears are. I'm only encouraging people to think for themselves and make their own decision.

If your decision is to stay, then that is your decision. I'm not going to try to change your mind. There are many really nice families. No one knows what happens inside a family except the people in it. If this is your experience and you gain some kind of uplifting experience by remaining apart of it, and no sinister or manipulative tactics have been used against you to do things you would not otherwise have done, then please, continue on.

Friday, August 26, 2011

From the comments


AJ said...

Oh Pnina...you bitter bitter girl...

I didn't happen upon this and other blogs. I happened upon the rick ross message board, where this and several other blogs were listed as places to go for information. I find the whole idea of cults fascinating. I find the fact that people hang on to anger for so long even more so. One would think that after deciding to walk away from something that was so awful, one would choose to no longer let it be such a focus of their life. Or, if there is a lot of anger, confusion, whatever to deal with, that one would seek professional help to do so. So I'm also fascinated by those of you on all of these sites who are choosing to spew vitriol instead. Granted, I've been pretty sarcastic myself, so I guess I'm equally guilty.

Whether or not you want to believe I'm "in the group"...who cares? I certainly don't.

I'm not flabbergasted at all. Incredibly amused by the nastiness that you and others are so quick to throw around. Equally amused by your inability to respond to inconsistencies in your arguments. But flabbergasted? Not really.

In response to your comments. I have no real opinion about Mr. Coon's ability or inability to make decisions at  age 17.  But thank you for pointing out that one of the boys was 16. That means that what Jack did was statutory rape in New York. 
Truly I didn't care what went on with the group after I left. That is until my father, John Chevallard, tried to raped a member of the group. Then the group covered it up. That was almost 4 years ago. 
That's why I doing this. Now if you don't mind and if you do really care about this topic, please leave stop leaving hurtful messages. You're upsetting the children.

Preparing for doomsday

Just a taste of what you need to build a doomsday compound.

Word of the day




1.tool
January 13, 2005 Urban Word of the Day
One who lacks the mental capacity to know he is being used. A fool. Acretin. Characterized by low intelligence and/or self-steem.
That tool dosen't even know she's just using him.

To help out a fellow rebel

They were having problems posting.


Pnina,
Ok. Here's what I'm trying to post. I wrote.... 

 
Jack was criticized for being exploitive and deceptive. The accusations of pedophilia were not hurled against Jack but were instead hurled against some of his followers. In a nutshell; there is an overall concern about this group in that they do not teach or respect the sexual boundaries of their lower ranking members. The concern is that Gary Coons and his friends are exploiting and teaching bad things.
Going tit for tat is childish. Complaining about outsiders and what they do wrong is irresponsible. The leaders of this group needs to stop pointing the fingers at outsiders and behave responsibly and acknowledge their own bad deeds. Trying to redirect the conversation and find scapegoats and outsiders to criticize is lame.
It is also an indication of how childish and irresponsible the leaders are.

Outsider

Sick Bastards




This comes from a comment left on But Seriously.                                                                                  Did you know that once you hit puberty it's OK to have sex.



Waaaaa said...




I've included a definition for you since you (and many others) have yet to master the English language:
Pedophilia: a paraphilia consisting of a primary adult sexual attraction to prepubescent children (DSM-IV: Over a period of at least six months, recurrent, intense, sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children).
Prebuescent. Hmmmm...I think I remember that the alleged sexual activity was between an adult and 17-year-olds. That, my dear, is NOT pedophilia. At least use the correct terms. In fact, 17 is above the age of consent. There was no crime here. If it did happen, and it very well may have, you can say Jack was sick, a liar, a fraud. What you cannot (correctly) say is that he was a pedophile, child abuser, or criminal. Oh, and by the way, he's dead.


So, people still chose to follow him and his teachings? Strange. But stranger things have happened. Luckily, that constitution you were so excited about in another post gives us all the freedom to believe and practice any religion we like. Oh, and not only that, but we have the freedom to teach and raise our children with any beliefs/religion we choose. Yay for America.
There are still thousands of Catholic schools after ACTUAL documented pedophilia on a large scale. What is wrong with those parents? Lock 'em up! Oh wait, isn't your sister a Catholic now? Doesn't she have a child? How did she go from this crazy cult into the biggest cult in the world who systematically have abused children, among many other atrocities, for centuries? Where is your outrage??
The "family" teaches their children they are special? Atrocious! I'd much prefer to teach my children the christian rhetoric: you will go to hell if you don't accept Jesus Christ in exactly the way we say. Oh, and if you are gay, you're going to hell. Heathen! Oh, and if your child dies before accepting Christ, sorry, hell. Much healthier.

Wednesday, August 24, 2011

For Freckles


Mascot, maybe?
P.S. Wee're not the baddies

You guys rock!

Route 7/11 to Corinna, Maine
Go left on Route 43 (St. Alban's road)
Follow a few miles.
Go right on Packard RD
Follow a few miles
Take left before Packard road forks.
Drive will take you past Don S's house and ABBA's grave on left.
School is down the road and to the right. It's a small modular unit.

View Larger Map

Do not pay attention to the man behind the curtain

Just heard last night that Gary and Joseph are telling people that we (the bloggers) are EEEEEVILLL (if you have ever watched Spongebob, this is said in the voice of Mermaidman). Well all I can say is even if the title above is true, it still doesn't change the facts. It don't change the history.

  • Jack masturbated on teenage boys and called it God's will.
  • Gary took over and did the same thing. 
  • People tithe. Well where the hell is all the money? I knew a few families that could have used help but didn't get it.  
  • Mike Van. was appointed King and has commanded that this Oct. everyone must bow down at his feet and be judged. 
What happen to
 "No King But God"
"Don't worship false idols"
"Beware false prophets"
Yup we're the baddies and they're the goodies.
   

Tuesday, August 23, 2011

Thank you Masked Stranger!


Northern Maine cammp directions: drive all the way to Greenville and continue on Lily Bay Rd uuntil you get to Kokadjo. Follow Kokadjo Rd to the Baxter State Park Rd. This will turn into the Golden Rd. Follow the Golden Rd toward Caribou Lake. Most of the mish's have their camps on Caribou Lake. If you look at Google maps, most of the camps (Ramu etc) are right at the point of the lake on the west shore where the southern end of the lake starts to open up and get fatter. Ramu's naturally have a beautiful log type two story "camp" ... the driveway id veery narrow (grass and dirt). You need to use this same drive is you want to access the water to get across to where Bob and Sylvia Finelli have their camp for their group. That one is across the lake and on the southern point on the pennisula directly inthe middle of the lake. You can see the camps on google map satelite images.

Anonymous

I have no problem letting everyone keep their anonymity, but it's getting down right confusing with all of the "anonymous". So please make up a screen name.

Monday, August 22, 2011

Oh we "Drank the Kool-Aid"!

We were told "Go enjoy the retreats: just don't drink the Kool-Aid". In hindsight, this statement came from Kool-Aid drinkers.

Friday, August 19, 2011

It has to be said

I will post anything that has to do with this group.
You made your bed and someones going to make you lay in it.
You can't tell us to shut up.
But thanks for trying.

Small request

If someone has it, I would love pictures of Jack, Gary, Elders, etc...Maybe we can put some faces to the names and deeds. Also again anyone out there with more teachings wants to send them my way, that would be great. It can all be done anonymously. Let show these people for who they are.

Thanks again
Pnina Chevallard


Thursday, August 18, 2011

Well at least they are watching

This is the responses to seeing the post. I love how this guy can't even understand how damn crazy his email sounded. Oh and MJJ say hi to my craptastic parents for me! I know you see them often.




I have to say I am shocked...
Here I really thought I was speaking with someone who I trusted and believed.  Well it is hard to feel that way after a very personal letter is plastered on the web for all to see.
I guess I know your answer about wanting to talk or anything like that.  So I will go on my way.  I am sorry that you had to end it this way.
But at least I know where you stand.

Regards,
[MJJ]

Wednesday, August 17, 2011

Showing Jack's good work at work


This was forwarded to me by Freckle Face last night. This is from a clan head to her. It was edited because the man has small children and he mentioned their names. They were removed. That said this is Jack's teachings at work. Please feel free to leave commence below.

[Freckle Face],
How are you?  (This is [MJJ] by the way, not sure I have emailed you from my email account)

It has been many months since we last chatted (via FB) and you are often on my mind.  As I mentioned months ago I have had my own inner struggles with things and questions.... and have to say even more questions today.  My conversation with my parents seemed to only stay within some unseen parameters which resulted in shoulder shurgs and we did not know anything about that... even my asking my mom about specific abuses that were covered up... but then again, at least the early one, would have been prior to her being in her position.


You have a wonderful website.... outside of the posting about the family, you right wonderfully!  The whole thing about knocking on the bathroom door?  Well it made me laugh and actually ponder it myself because of my proximity with the bathroom in my office, and watching different people approach it differently.. I have to say there is someone that simply walks up and pulls on the handle and does not knock!  So I am paranoid about making sure it is locked!  But seriously!  They are likely the ones that dont answer when they are inside it and you knock...  Anyway, I digress, but wanted to tell you I enjoy your writing...


I have read your recent postings and I am just floored by the experiences that you right of... Very deeply saddened unlike I have ever been and scratch my head to try and understand why I did not see these things?  I just don't know what is right or wrong and hope that Hashem will some how show me the light directly!  I have only ever heard rumors of [The Gay Man] and never heard anything first or even second hand.  He and I were never more than an acquaintance but I knew enough to know he was a good kid, etc... How could anyone treat another the way you say he was treated?  I don't understand it?  Regardless of who he is or what he believes... Ok, maybe that does not  conform with the family teachings and the like... but that is no excuse to condemn that person!


Your experience you mention of going to NYC for pizza and then being grilled on your way back... This is not love!  We are supposed to love one another like Hashem loves us... Does Hashem have rules that we are expected to follow?  Sure... God is the final judge and as far as I am concerned the only judge!


Can our parents zeal and love make them blind to things?  Oh yes, I truly believe that... And their actions are clearly not going to be taken in the same way by anyone who has their own fears about anything... so this can just manifest and linger... not healthy... but where is there a healthy place for one to hash these out?  That is hard....


Things are happening in this world right now that are clearly heading us down a dark road.  I have felt this way for a long time and outside the context of the family and their teachings and/or beliefs.  Too many pieces to too many puzzles are beginning to line up.  Are there dark and sinister forces that are behind the scenes and in control?  Yes, I believe this... it has been so since the beginning of man.  Is the earth affected by this?  Yes, I believe that to... and I will fit into Gods plan as God sees fit.  I will seek his spirit and his will and hope that he will lead me in the right direction.  I have all to often been a follower and latched on to things that seemed right or resonated with me.  So for me it is for me to seek the truth and light of God and how it fits into the world today.  For me... For [wife's name] and my children...


Although I have went on for some time already... the main reason I emailed was that you spoke of a dream you had.... and I wanted to know more about this.  Honestly I wanted to ask if there was any way to meet... I would come up your way... I hate email as a primary communication type... but will let you decide how you feel about that.   But a number of years ago I had a dream that had a similar tilt as yours and wonder what it means that we would have had similar stream of mind...


What if we are really the ones who will stave off a more sever judgment on the earth?  What if we are the ones  who are to step into the gap and through our prayers offer sacrifice for the nations?  What if this is all true but that (and this has just come to me as I have been sitting here day dreaming) some how we have been corralled into this system to keep us from full potential and keep us from being out in the world... carzy and dark to consider that...  could you be lead by that whom you are always told you are being protected from?  My dream is not unlike yours in ways that point to things not being as they are... mine is of us being called and gathered as if it was time to go (where ever) but actually being led to our end.  I try not to think of this dream at all since it specific includes my mother as someone doing the leading and someone the people are all trusting... but reading about yours made it hit home...
I have always been a believer of God being the only truth in the world.  In the end only God knows what will happen and how it will happen.  Which is why I would never condemn someone who simply did not believe the same thing as me.  That is not to say I cannot disagree with you... of course I can.  But it is how you handle that discourse and the other person that matters!  There are many millions of 'faithful' in this world... and it really does not even matter if they are Muslim, hindu, buddhist... the believe is all that matters I suppose.
I hope that you and your family are well... I hope that [your family] are well also...  
Chaperoning [one of the kids's] end of year field trip actually brought me out your way... what an amazing place!  Anyway... I should get back to work!
[MJJ]

Thursday, August 11, 2011

You should have them sign a nondisclosure agreement.

I'm not eloquent. Not classy. Funny, but not overly charming. So I will make this brief:
Jack Hickman and his cohorts have help to destroy many many lives.  You might be one of those hurt, you might be one of those who did the hurting, or you might just be one of the blind sheep who still follow. Either way, enjoy. I know I am. Here are the teachings. Here is the crap we were fed . Here is the reason so many families have been pulled apart. They should have had us sign a nondisclosure agreement  .